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By Adrian Proszenko
June 30, 2020 — 7.45pm

Canterbury chair Lynne Anderson has denied Dean Pay’s fate will be decided at a joint-management meeting of football and leagues club powerbrokers on Thursday, declaring: "We will make a measured rather than reactionary decision."

Pay is the only NRL coach off contract at the end of the season and his future is the source of renewed speculation after the club slumped to last place following a 34-6 loss to Wests Tigers.

The Bulldogs will need to make a call on whether to renew Pay’s contract in the coming weeks given recruitment targets want clarity over the team’s direction before committing. Thursday's meeting has been called amid suggestions of a boardroom split over whether to offer Pay a one-year extension.

But in her first comments on the coaching situation, Anderson said Pay’s future was not on Thursday’s agenda and that he will be given every opportunity to push his case to remain at Belmore.

"We won’t be rushing to a decision," Anderson told the Herald. "We will be giving Dean every opportunity and all of our board and staff are committed to supporting Dean and the team.

"Having done a lot of analysis and looked at stats coming from a research [background], I now look at three teams I admire. I look at where they are at and where they have come from because they have had to do rebuilds or they have had dramas with salary cap, etc.

"I admire Parramatta, Newcastle and Canberra. You look at trigger points for their turnarounds, and they are in their fourth or fifth years - we are two-and-a-half in.

"They are the kinds of rational decisions required, where we take the heat out of the moment and say ‘should we be further ahead of where we are now?’ Yes, because we shouldn’t have shot ourselves in the foot with Port Macquarie [an incident that led to the sacking of Jayden Okunbor and Corey Harawira-Naera].

"They are the things we need to be stepping back [to consider] a rational decision rather than an emotional one."

Asked if there was a deadline on Pay’s future, Anderson said: "Not at all".

"We will make a measured rather than reactionary decision. We are under no illusions we all need to do better."
Pay’s success rate since taking over from Des Hasler in 2018 is just 35 per cent, although club powerbrokers have cut him some slack given the roster and salary cap issues he inherited.

Making the Bulldogs situation all the more intriguing is the prevalence of influential figures on the periphery who have the ear of the decision makers. There is a push for Wayne Bennett to be pursued from 2021 from some quarters as part of a transition plan that involves eventually handing over to a former player currently working in the media. The proposed overhaul includes shaking up the roster by pursuing the likes of Matt Burton, Curtis Rona and also Ben Hunt if the Dragons are prepared to subsidise the transfer of the latter.

Asked if the board was split on Pay’s future, Anderson said: "We have not discussed a decision around him. What we have discussed is that we will continue to support him.

"We had a (board) meeting last Thursday and will continue to give support. Hilly and Pricey (CEO Andrew Hill and general manager of football Steve Price) will be there for him so he can tell us what he needs and what the team needs. That’s all it’s been."

Leagues club boss George Coorey couldn’t be contacted for comment regarding Thursday’s meeting, while Anderson said Pay’s future wouldn’t be broached.
"Absolutely not," she said. "It is all around long-term sustainability of our club, as well as the short term because of COVID.

"It’s about best-practice corporate governance in extraordinary times like now.

"It’s a review about the performance of the leagues club and the football clubs jointly. I am certainly keen to hear management’s views on what the next 12 months will look like."
 
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A few quotes here worry the shit out of me as a fan.

The Bulldogs will need to make a call on whether to renew Pay’s contract in the coming weeks given recruitment targets want clarity over the team’s direction before committing.

Was always going to be the case. No player is going to want to come to the club, and no player manager will recommend their client to the club, when we are an absolute shitshow.

Pretty sure if the answer to player/client is "we are sticking with the same shit again", the reply will be "thanks but no thanks Bulldogs".

and then we'll end up paying overs only for players who use us as a cash cow.

Thursday's meeting has been called amid suggestions of a boardroom split over whether to offer Pay a one-year extension.

Split? Are they watching games at all? Stevie Wonder can see what the problem with our side is. It's not talent, it's not ability, and it sure as hell isn't salary cap issues as we've bought players in recent times.

"Having done a lot of analysis and looked at stats coming from a research [background], I now look at three teams I admire. I look at where they are at and where they have come from because they have had to do rebuilds or they have had dramas with salary cap, etc. "I admire Parramatta, Newcastle and Canberra. You look at trigger points for their turnarounds, and they are in their fourth or fifth years - we are two-and-a-half in.

So is she inferring the club and board need another 1.5 - 2.5 years before they see success? Won't happen with the current staffing lineup.

"They are the kinds of rational decisions required, where we take the heat out of the moment and say ‘should we be further ahead of where we are now?’ Yes, because we shouldn’t have shot ourselves in the foot with Port Macquarie [an incident that led to the sacking of Jayden Okunbor and Corey Harawira-Naera].

Two blokes having consensual sex with legal aged women (albeit not the best judgement).

Lets be honest and REAL here. Rashays sponsored the club years ago for a single year, didn't renew that sponsorship, and instead sponsored the Tigers.

This time there was another excuse for pulling sponsorship.

Lets also remember here that Rashays claimed that they'd reconsider the deal back in April if the Dogs sacked CHN and JO.

Still waiting!

"They are the things we need to be stepping back [to consider] a rational decision rather than an emotional one."

Like the emotional decision to sack two decent players from our side over consensual sex against their better judgement?

.....

All I'm reading is excuse after excuse after excuse.

The horse is well and truly dead, and you can only hide behind bullshit for so long without results. That period is over.

Do fans just hang in there and 2, 3, 5, 7, 10 years in the future the same lines are still being trotted out, and same excuses made?

We are no longer the Canterbury Bankstown Bulldogs, we are now the Complacent Bullshit Bulldogs.

Whatever happened to pride? Whatever happened to grit and determination? We are happy to settle for 8th, 9th, even 10th or 16th. We are happy to settle for a few wins at the arse end of the season when the years gone.

Pays safe because he knows that's how the board think, and how they will react.
 

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This board needs to go I’ve lost faith in them and they can’t do a simple job like replacing pay.
 

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Blind leading the blind.
 

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I have a feeling that they’re working in the background at a new direction.
most of these quotes come across as generic, fence sitting so they can’t be accused of lying if they bone Pay.
 

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This club is at its weakest point.. We used to be a club that players wanted to play for, but now we're a club that players either don't want to come to, or sign on and then bail at the 11th hour
 

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The moment Lynne Anderson said "I admire Parramatta, Newcastle and Canberra. You look at trigger points for their turnarounds, and they are in their fourth or fifth years - we are two-and-a-half in. That is troubling.... she is out of touch with reality and the life blood of our club, our fan base. I don't think I could take another 2 and a half years of mediocrity waiting for this mob to get their act together or Pays coaching which has proven to be head scratching at best.
 
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The moment Lynne Anderson said "I admire Parramatta, Newcastle and Canberra. You look at trigger points for their turnarounds, and they are in their fourth or fifth years - we are two-and-a-half in. That is troubling.... she is out of touch with reality and the life blood of our club, our fan base. I don't think I could take another 2 and a half years of mediocrity waiting for this mob to get their act together or Pays coaching which has proven to be head scratching at best.


Could you imagine Nick politis saying we admire souths and what they are doing at the moment?
Dopes.
 

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The fucking words "we admire Parramatta" should not exist. Those shit cunt's entire history is "hey, remember how good we were for those 4 years 4 decades ago?".

Those nothing cunts have won half as many premierships as us, have not won anything since 19 fucking 86, cheated the cap to come last TWICE (show me any other team in any sport, at any time in any country who has done that. It's the equivalent of taking steroids in a race and coming last TWICE) and hold the most wooden spoons of any current NRL team.

Fuck Parra, fuck their jizz looking logo and fuck anyone who "admires" them.
 

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The fucking words "we admire Parramatta" should not exist. Those shit cunt's entire history is "hey, remember how good we were for those 4 years 4 decades ago?".

Those nothing cunts have won half as many premierships as us, have not won anything since 19 fucking 86, cheated the cap to come last TWICE (show me any other team in any sport, at any time in any country who has done that. It's the equivalent of taking steroids in a race and coming last TWICE) and hold the most wooden spoons of any current NRL team.

Fuck Parra, fuck their jizz looking logo and fuck anyone who "admires" them.
Fucking well said brother you sir deserve a standing ovation 👏👏👏👏👏
KE for ceo
 

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She really said she admires Parra?
FLM!
Hook her off the stage and straight onto the streets now FFS!
 
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